Three years ago, she founded a children’s conference at Defcon called R00tz, where she shows kids how vulnerable they are online by teaching them to hack.
"We do things like, 'let me show you how to eavesdrop on someone's cell phone calls and text messages. Let me show you how to break into [Facebook] and [Twitter.] Let me show you how to turn on the interfacing camera," she explained. "The kind of data we can buy on other people."
Sell doesn’t apologize for teaching children to hack private communications. "You can't make kids behave well online by saying privacy is good for you. They will run from it. What you say is, ‘You want me to show you how stupid these other people are for being online? Look at how easily I could own them.'"
She recommends children – and adults – take precautions to protect their privacy. She keeps her cell phone in an impenetrable metal case so hackers can’t access her GPS location or messages. She also keeps a sticker over her phone’s camera unless she’s using it.
She warns that unless the phone’s battery is out, criminals can still get in.
"The NSA is just the tip of the iceberg; surveillance has gone mainstream. This is the kind of thing we can teach the kids how to do in a half an hour."
As for her own kids, Sell isn’t taking any chances. She’s already taught her 4-year-old daughter to use Wickr, an app she created that sends encrypted, self-destructing messages. It now has roughly 1 million users.
She says such apps are necessary because regulators simply can’t keep up with all the sites criminals and predators are using.
“None of the lawmakers can grasp this all, so I deploy an attitude of download very, very few apps and check them out and check out the founders and how they make money very closely before I let my kids use anything.”
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